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#1 User is offline   sweethalo 

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 11:15 AM

Hi anyone can ID the following for me and the respective care required?

Variegated Ginger 1

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/sweethalo/DSC02091.jpg

Variegated Ginger 2
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/sweethalo/DSC02094.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/sweethalo/DSC02093.jpg

The so called Black Ginger? :unsure:/>
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/sweethalo/DSC02095.jpg

Another Tall one
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/sweethalo/DSC02096.jpg

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 09:13 PM

Variegated Ginger 1 - alpinia zerumbet
takes from 20% - 50% shade but they seldom flower in our weather...

Black Ginger - etlingera fulgens or heiroglyphica
I plant it in 50% - 80% shade. Fertilize well to get strong growth.

Happy growing!!
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Posted 12 July 2006 - 11:59 PM

Hi deTengs... thank you for the reply.

I currently have the Black Ginger planted under a tree so it gets filtered light, By the way what fertilizers do you use?

Do you have any Hedychiums? Should they be planted in the shade as well? What soil medium is the best for hedychiums?

Thanks again :)/>
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 06:32 PM

U can try chicken dung fertiliser for established plants. Smells a bit if left exposed but then i think they work best...

Hedychiums are beautiful. They need bright sunlight but yet pretty sensitive to heat at the same time. If the shade is too much they may not flower.

A good fren once told me gingers love yellowish sticky soil and my experience shows me that he's right!!

Ur 4th picture 'Another Tall One' is actually an etlingera elatior cv 'Red Sceptre'. Most people mistake it for the normal bunga kantan but it's a beautiful specimen to add to one's ginger collection. Grow it well and the inflorescence spike will shoot out > 1m length from the ground.

An absolute conversational piece for anyone's home when it flowers. U've a healthy collection of gingers! well done!
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 09:51 PM

Thanks deTengs for the encouragement :)/>

I have planted my peach Hedychium just infront of the Red Sceptre, I hope that will be ok, except that I find the stems of the Hedychium seem to be falling over, do I need to stake them up or is it becos the flower is spent and therefore needs to be trimmed? I still have not decided where to plant the Hedychium Coronarium. :blink:/>

I have used the chicken dung so far, but wondering if bonemeal will do the same job well.

My ground is of sticky claylike soil -- is that what you mean by yellow sticky soil? So far I basically dig a hole and place the plant in before filling it up with Indonesian Burnt Earth, i hope that is ok for them?

From your experience, does the Black Ginger flower? Do you have any photos to show me what a matured plant would look like here?

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 10:54 PM

Hi,
I've not tried bonemeal before though it's supposed to be helpful for many plants.

My specimen has not flowered yet. it's still a young specimen... so i've no pic to show u...sorry:unsure: SBG has specimens littered behind the waterfalls at the ginger garden...sometimes they flower and it's a beautiful sight when u look directly down into the cups... :)/>
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 11:38 AM

Hi deTengs,

Can you advise how tall the Etlingera Fulgens can grow to? So that I know where the place mine - whether in the foreground or towards the rear.

Also, for Globba Winitiis.

Thanks.
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Posted 13 September 2006 - 02:40 PM

Hi mm

Globba Winitii can take a bit more light than other globbas, but they prefer shade, otherwise they will droop.

Not all varieties of Hedychium do well here. White H Coronarium is easy, but the other peach coloured ones all seem to droop and rarely flower :(/>

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View Postmm, on Sep 11 2006, 11:38 AM, said:

Hi deTengs,

Can you advise how tall the Etlingera Fulgens can grow to? So that I know where the place mine - whether in the foreground or towards the rear.

Also, for Globba Winitiis.

Thanks.

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 04:04 PM

Mickey, thanks. But do you know how tall they grow to? The Etlingera fulgens and Globba winitii.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:33 PM

Hi everyone,
The e. fulgens in my garden is blooming. Here's a picture to share.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/tengiber/etlingerafulgens.jpg

Mm, globba winitii grows to about 1 - 1.5 ft. As for etlingera fulgens, I suspect it grow up to maybe max of 15 - 20 ft.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:40 PM

WOW splendid...im melting.... :lol:/>
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 11:45 PM

deTengs,

Thanks. Now I know where to locate them.
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Posted 15 September 2006 - 12:00 AM

View PostdeTengs, on Sep 14 2006, 10:33 PM, said:

Hi everyone,
The e. fulgens in my garden is blooming. Here's a picture to share.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/tengiber/etlingerafulgens.jpg

Mm, globba winitii grows to about 1 - 1.5 ft. As for etlingera fulgens, I suspect it grow up to maybe max of 15 - 20 ft.


Wow deTengs....wht a beauty u hv there...how long did it take before it first flowers? Mine is only about 5ft tall now.

Cheers

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 01:30 PM

u need to wait maybe 3 months only...mine was about that height a few months back. Then i decided to give it more chicken manure fertilizer and they're up to 9 feet now.

Few flowers have such nice green tips! It's a natural wonder!
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 10:59 AM

What is the ID of pic no 2 in sweethalo's post?
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 10:25 PM

Is it variegated Alpinia sanderae? I'm not really sure.
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 12:23 AM

View Postchongren, on Oct 21 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

Is it variegated Alpinia sanderae? I'm not really sure.


The leaves are quite small compared to other gingers and the variegation is green and white. Flowers are small white clumps.
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