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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:45 PM

Hoho. After being poisoned by the hydroponics bug, I have decided to begin my own hydroponics experiment. Thank you Sthh,Robert, and LimSan for all the useful info, from sourcing materials, to growing guides and recommendations. I poisoned my friend over Facebook and we went to Hortpark bazaar -> World Farm -> Oh Chin Huat to gather our hydroponics materials. I'm intending to set up 4 hydroponics pots using CNY containers along an open window with direct sunlight throughout the day.

Starting Materials

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/E600AFAF-1169-4A1F-B210-06586353046B.jpg
ALS 4020 Candy Container from Hougang NTUC Fairprice - $1 X4
The 4.5-inch pot is a perfect fit for this container, with the rim of the net pot resting on the rim of the container. My friend uses 4019 and it fits perfectly too, only thing is that the reservoir for 4019 is not much.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/09A1AC8B-71BF-43B9-8CB9-296427944D26.jpg
4.5-inch black net pot from World Farm - $0.70 X4
World Farm ran out of stock for the 4-inch ones. The shelf has many black net pots stacked at the section for 4-inch pots, but they're all actually 4.5-inch.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/FE07A9B2-41B0-4F86-AAA1-A2D6A9258FA7.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/7D2E1BE3-420B-4116-9605-9CD80B27F0C1.jpg
19X14X2.5cm Hydroponics Sponge from Oh Chin Huat Nursery - $0.60 X4
So convenient, it has already been cut so that I can just insert the seed in and soak with water.
I've decided to switch to aquarium filter wool to allow better root penetration.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/7FFBE2EB-CBAE-4616-8843-90F281AF8DE4.jpg
1 pack X 4 pieces of 28.5X14.5X2.5cm aquarium filter wool from aquarium shop at kovan - $2.50


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/72067406-BE91-42FC-A64A-6BBF61A2F99D.jpg
Lush-Gro Hydros Liquid A+B 1L each bottle, comes in a set for greens from EcoCityHydroponics, bought at Hortpark bazaar - $18 for set
Oh no, when my tomato blooms, I may have to purchase the Blooms solution at $21.60 for 1L. Will see how it goes first.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/E261CA31-910F-4182-A1B2-1A91690A873D.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/C2360B7D-2133-40C8-894F-CC7D5620D2C8.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/2D1A06C2-B02C-4E7D-90C1-0798C111AFE2.jpg
Dwarf Heirloom Tomato 'Vilma' seeds from The Seeds Master booth at Hortpark bazaar - $6
I counted 139 seeds inside that packet.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/781500B2-EB92-4AF1-8B3C-D9DA6F51717D.jpg
Black China Leca from World Farm - $3
World Farm ran out of stock for the $5 brown leca. My friend says that soaking the black leca in water will result in them whispering into your ears (from all the crackling)

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:48 PM

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/F4949912-8860-43CF-934D-C29B01E9143A.jpg
Hawaiian Red Currant Tomatoes seeds from The Seeds Master booth at Hortpark bazaar - $6
Was hoping that there would be 100+ seeds in here to give some away but there are only 12 inside (this forum really needs a crying emoji)


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/754E30E0-939B-4268-8290-983299B1438D.jpg

Btw, the Lushgro nutrient set comes with a calibrated cup so we do not need to get a syringe for measurements.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:11 PM

Your sponge is not easy for seedlings' root to penetrate. COnsider changing it to those cheap $2 for 5 pieces aquarium wool.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0303_zpsdb1e9ec5.jpg
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM

View Poststhh, on 08 February 2015 - 09:11 PM, said:

Your sponge is not easy for seedlings' root to penetrate. COnsider changing it to those cheap $2 for 5 pieces aquarium wool.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0303_zpsdb1e9ec5.jpg


Oh okay, will get it tomorrow, thanks! Can I use the hydroponics sponge to partially line the net pot? I don't wanna waste the sponge
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:25 PM

View Postlazearus, on 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

Oh okay, will get it tomorrow, thanks! Can I use the hydroponics sponge to partially line the net pot? I don't wanna waste the sponge


If you use sponge to line the net pots, your culture will be too wet.
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:33 PM

View Poststhh, on 08 February 2015 - 09:25 PM, said:

If you use sponge to line the net pots, your culture will be too wet.


Ahh, so do I just place a small wool containing my seed on top of a net pot of leca, then leave the bottom of the net pot touching the reservoir of nutrients? I'm afraid that the leca won't be able to wick up the nutrient solution.
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:41 PM

View Postlazearus, on 08 February 2015 - 09:33 PM, said:

Ahh, so do I just place a small wool containing my seed on top of a net pot of leca, then leave the bottom of the net pot touching the reservoir of nutrients? I'm afraid that the leca won't be able to wick up the nutrient solution.


Don't worry. You can level the water till it reaches the base of the aquarium wool. The aquarium wool will remain constantly moist, and the vilma tomato seed from theseedmaster will definitely sprout. And, yes, just a very small piece of wool will do.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:50 PM

View Poststhh, on 08 February 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

Don't worry. You can level the water till it reaches the base of the aquarium wool. The aquarium wool will remain constantly moist, and the vilma tomato seed from theseedmaster will definitely sprout. And, yes, just a very small piece of wool will do.



Ahh ok thank you very much! I will swap to the wool tomorrow! :notworthy:/>
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 09:53 AM

View Postlazearus, on 08 February 2015 - 08:45 PM, said:

Hoho. After being poisoned by the hydroponics bug....... I poisoned my friend over Facebook.....

yes, can't agree more, its a "contagious bug"!! :wacko:/>
this "epidemic" is already going viral here... and you are spreading it via facebook! way to go dude... :hysterical:/>

View Postlazearus, on 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

Oh okay, will get it tomorrow, thanks! Can I use the hydroponics sponge to partially line the net pot? I don't wanna waste the sponge

since you already have it, try experimenting it on one seed :unsure:/>

:drunk:/> GAMBATE!! :drunk:/>

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:00 AM

View PostLimSan, on 09 February 2015 - 09:53 AM, said:

yes, can't agree more, its a "contagious bug"!! :wacko:/>/>
this "epidemic" is already going viral here... and you are spreading it via facebook! way to go dude... :hysterical:/>/>


since you already have it, try experimenting it on one seed :unsure:/>/>

:drunk:/>/> GAMBATE!! :drunk:/>/>



Hahaha I'm encouraging my friend to set up an account here and create a journal entry as well :hysterical:/>

Hmm regarding the sponge, if the pro says not to use, I'll just follow :lol:/>

Any updates on yours to share?
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:28 AM

Oooo.. no pro.. just started a bit earlier and have a few more pots of hydroponics on different types of plants. Tomatoes and cucumbers are easier. These will give one the success needed to boast confidence, because tomatoes and cucumbers are more tolerant of overdosage of fertiliser and drowning of roots. Peppers on the other hand is more picky, needs less fertliser and lots of air.

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 11:51 AM

View Poststhh, on 09 February 2015 - 10:28 AM, said:

Oooo.. no pro.. just started a bit earlier and have a few more pots of hydroponics on different types of plants. Tomatoes and cucumbers are easier. These will give one the success needed to boast confidence, because tomatoes and cucumbers are more tolerant of overdosage of fertiliser and drowning of roots. Peppers on the other hand is more picky, needs less fertliser and lots of air.



Good good, I need the confidence booster after killing all my mini AVs. :hitmyself:/> Thanks for the suggestions, I'll keep them in mind if I decide to grow other plants in the future.
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:13 PM

View Postlazearus, on 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

Oh okay, will get it tomorrow, thanks! Can I use the hydroponics sponge to partially line the net pot? I don't wanna waste the sponge


hmmm.... i'm using these sponge leh.. I find it ok at the moment... just dun get the seedsmaster brown sponge.. that is really way too dense.. my plant did not grow until I changed the sponge..
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:19 PM

View Poststhh, on 09 February 2015 - 10:28 AM, said:

Oooo.. no pro.. just started a bit earlier and have a few more pots of hydroponics on different types of plants. Tomatoes and cucumbers are easier. These will give one the success needed to boast confidence, because tomatoes and cucumbers are more tolerant of overdosage of fertiliser and drowning of roots. Peppers on the other hand is more picky, needs less fertliser and lots of air.


I have found this out in the last week sthh that growing chillies and Capsicum have different needs, I nearlly killed my peppers growing in the same DWC as my capsicum. I have now planted my chillies in my ebb and flow system where there is a break in between watering times.
In one day I see a big difference and new growth, in my chillie plants .
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:23 PM

View PostRobert1943, on 09 February 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

I have found this out in the last week sthh that growing chillies and Capsicum have different needs, I nearlly killed my peppers growing in the same DWC as my capsicum. I have now planted my chillies in my ebb and flow system where there is a break in between watering times.
In one day I see a big difference and new growth, in my chillie plants .


Yeah, I agree. Chillies need their roots to get lots of air. Ebb and flow will definitely help with that. Nowadays, I am giving my chilli plants only 1-2 inch of nutrient solution, lol. They literally have to grow their roots long and deep into the nutrient.
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:23 PM

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Hoho. After being poisoned by the hydroponics bug, I have decided to begin my own hydroponics experiment. Thank you Sthh,Robert, and LimSan for all the useful info, from sourcing materials, to growing guides and recommendations. I poisoned my friend over Facebook and we went to Hortpark bazaar -> World Farm -> Oh Chin Huat to gather our hydroponics materials. I'm intending to set up 4 hydroponics pots using CNY containers along an open window with direct sunlight throughout the day.

Starting Materials

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/E600AFAF-1169-4A1F-B210-06586353046B.jpg
ALS 4020 Candy Container from Hougang NTUC Fairprice - $1 X4
The 4.5-inch pot is a perfect fit for this container, with the rim of the net pot resting on the rim of the container. My friend uses 4019 and it fits perfectly too, only thing is that the reservoir for 4019 is not much.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/09A1AC8B-71BF-43B9-8CB9-296427944D26.jpg
4.5-inch black net pot from World Farm - $0.70 X4
World Farm ran out of stock for the 4-inch ones. The shelf has many black net pots stacked at the section for 4-inch pots, but they're all actually 4.5-inch.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/FE07A9B2-41B0-4F86-AAA1-A2D6A9258FA7.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/7D2E1BE3-420B-4116-9605-9CD80B27F0C1.jpg
19X14X2.5cm Hydroponics Sponge from Oh Chin Huat Nursery - $0.60 X4
So convenient, it has already been cut so that I can just insert the seed in and soak with water.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/72067406-BE91-42FC-A64A-6BBF61A2F99D.jpg
Lush-Gro Hydros Liquid A+B 1L each bottle, comes in a set for greens from EcoCityHydroponics, bought at Hortpark bazaar - $18 for set
Oh no, when my tomato blooms, I may have to purchase the Blooms solution at $21.60 for 1L. Will see how it goes first.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/E261CA31-910F-4182-A1B2-1A91690A873D.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/C2360B7D-2133-40C8-894F-CC7D5620D2C8.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/2D1A06C2-B02C-4E7D-90C1-0798C111AFE2.jpg
Dwarf Heirloom Tomato 'Vilma' seeds from The Seeds Master booth at Hortpark bazaar - $6
I counted 139 seeds inside that packet.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/781500B2-EB92-4AF1-8B3C-D9DA6F51717D.jpg
Black China Leca from World Farm - $3
World Farm ran out of stock for the $5 brown leca. My friend says that soaking the black leca in water will result in them whispering into your ears (from all the crackling)


Ha ha welcome to our wacky world, at least you will have fun among the frustrations, and just when you have have got it all right, some one will come along and say no no do it this way. In other words it will always be a hobby in constant progress and updates.
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:25 PM

View Poststhh, on 09 February 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Yeah, I agree. Chillies need their roots to get lots of air. Ebb and flow will definitely help with that. Nowadays, I am giving my chilli plants only 1-2 inch of nutrient solution, lol. They literally have to grow their roots long and deep into the nutrient.


sthh you have done a wonderful job from a local Singaporian teaching other locals and guiding them along the correct path.
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 01:38 PM

View PostRobert1943, on 09 February 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Ha ha welcome to our wacky world, at least you will have fun among the frustrations, and just when you have have got it all right, some one will come along and say no no do it this way. In other words it will always be a hobby in constant progress and updates.


Hehe thank you for your guidance. I'm gonna hover over the plants every day LOL
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 02:18 PM

View Postlazearus, on 09 February 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

Hahaha I'm encouraging my friend to set up an account here and create a journal entry as well :hysterical:/>

Hmm regarding the sponge, if the pro says not to use, I'll just follow :lol:/>

Any updates on yours to share?


Ya, better listen and follow... lol

Mine taking their time ley.. sigh :closedeyes:/>
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Posted 11 February 2015 - 01:20 PM

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/chypmunk/Hydroponics/10111296-637A-40BD-B284-598909DAAB30.jpg

Day 2: Dwarf Tomato 'Vilma'

Swapped hydroponics sponge with aquarium filter wool. The sponge didn't seem to keep the seeds moist, so it's a good thing Sthh recommended me to change. Planted 4 seeds initially, then added 2 spares just in case, but realised later on that there were 2 seeds stuck together. Ended up with 7 seeds lol.
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