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Posted 26 January 2015 - 11:46 AM

nah.. no white flies.. got a shock and stared at all the leaves.. I believe it's the flash..

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some leaves didn't peck up and I just pulled them off.. looks very limp.. the rest looks pretty much normal now.. :)/>

thai basil didn't survive and died.. haiz.. I believe it might be spot where the plants are resting on.. too sunny..
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Posted 26 January 2015 - 04:48 PM

Too sunny? Sounds good for tomatoes and chilli actually.
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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:20 PM

Sunny is only good when i'm ard lah.. :P/>

my habanero chilli have started flowering. But no pollen on all the flowers so far.. is that a common problem? I have another plant which has visible pollen and i'm trying to pollinate plant A with plant B. Any suggestions?
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:22 AM

topped my sweet basil and combined another cutting into the 1st pot. hope it's not too much of a squeeze for them.

http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105302_zps1489b263.jpg
I have grand plans to make pesto with these.. hope they buck up and grow more leaves.. :P/>/>

sweet petite chilli growing up well. some leaves seem to be curling. do I need to check anything?
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105535_zps9b80cfea.jpg

close up on the centre. are those buds-to-be??
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105624_zps9f76920e.jpg

habanero/chilli flowers. no pollen the entire day. not even in the noon. I've had 3 buds drop off so far. trying to use another plant's flower to pollinate this. anyone knows if I have a sterile plant? :(/>/>
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105435_zpsdd86c99c.jpg
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:32 AM

Malabar spinach might be the easiest thing to grow via hydroponics. I was given a cutting by mum some time ago and I potted 1 in soil and the other in hydroponics to see the difference. the one grown in soil had mystery spots on it's leaves and smaller leaves compared to the other in hydroponics. the one in hydroponics seems able to grow without much nutrients. leaves were significantly bigger after nutrients were added. the plant just grew non stop even in the most daunting environment.

this was what it looked like for a while before I got irritated with it flopping all over the place and chopped it up.
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20141224_100040_zps28b6d322.jpg

put 5 stem cuttings into 1 net pot and this is what I have today. for some reason, only 3 cuttings grew and I cannot imagine if all 5 grew.
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105741_zps2bdfa9eb.jpg

propped it up with some chopsticks and I dunno how long this might last before the plant flops again. this is an easy plant to grow for small families as 1 4inch net pot should easily provide 1 meal. if only everyone likes the slimy taste. any recipes, anyone?
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105900_zps8e88d6e9.jpg
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 12:03 PM

Looking good. Sometimes, I think leaves growing on hydroponic tends to curl a bit, because of the high water content. As long as they feel succulent to the touch, they should be ok. However, if they curl way too much, it could be something inhibiting calcium uptake, perhaps too much magnesium. But don't worry about those.

Your sweet petite pepper is developing flower buds.
As for the habenaro, don't worry too much about it. As more flowers develop, I am sure they will have pollens. All your plants are looking good actually. Any update on your vilma tomatoes?

I am not too fond of the slimy taste of malabar spinach, so I don't really have any recipe for it.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 12:25 PM

View Postelsiekoh, on 05 February 2015 - 11:22 AM, said:

habanero/chilli flowers. no pollen the entire day. not even in the noon. I've had 3 buds drop off so far. trying to use another plant's flower to pollinate this. anyone knows if I have a sterile plant? :(/>/>/>/>
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105435_zpsdd86c99c.jpg


Previously, my chilli padi plant also keep dropping flowers. I was flipping tables, flipping my cats, flipping everything... so upset... Then sthh advised me to add a solution which is higher in P and it worked! I was using Daiso liquid fertiliser(green bottle) 6:6:6 which caused the flower to drop.. then I change to Daiso liquid fertiliser(blue bottle) 6:10:3 I think.

I molest the centre part of the flower every single day even after the petal dropped.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:23 PM

View Poststhh, on 05 February 2015 - 12:03 PM, said:

Looking good. Sometimes, I think leaves growing on hydroponic tends to curl a bit, because of the high water content. As long as they feel succulent to the touch, they should be ok. However, if they curl way too much, it could be something inhibiting calcium uptake, perhaps too much magnesium. But don't worry about those.

Your sweet petite pepper is developing flower buds.
As for the habenaro, don't worry too much about it. As more flowers develop, I am sure they will have pollens. All your plants are looking good actually. Any update on your vilma tomatoes?

I am not too fond of the slimy taste of malabar spinach, so I don't really have any recipe for it.


hmm... but there are some random brown spots on the leaves as well.. did not do anything recently so I dunno if I need to be worried.. the petite pepper is really small.. i'm quite shocked it's starting to develop flower buds..
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_131341_zps8605318c.jpg

vilma tomatoes look the same as usual.. 4 fruits coz there are not new flowers.. I just pruned off all the suckers and i'm trying to root them. will update if this works.. the 4 fruits are growing slowly.. how long do they take to turn red? i'm wondering if they will turn red by CNY.. :P/>
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_131429_zps76b054c3.jpg
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:24 PM

View Postelsiekoh, on 05 February 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Malabar spinach might be the easiest thing to grow via hydroponics. I was given a cutting by mum some time ago and I potted 1 in soil and the other in hydroponics to see the difference. the one grown in soil had mystery spots on it's leaves and smaller leaves compared to the other in hydroponics. the one in hydroponics seems able to grow without much nutrients. leaves were significantly bigger after nutrients were added. the plant just grew non stop even in the most daunting environment.

this was what it looked like for a while before I got irritated with it flopping all over the place and chopped it up.
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20141224_100040_zps28b6d322.jpg

put 5 stem cuttings into 1 net pot and this is what I have today. for some reason, only 3 cuttings grew and I cannot imagine if all 5 grew.
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105741_zps2bdfa9eb.jpg

propped it up with some chopsticks and I dunno how long this might last before the plant flops again. this is an easy plant to grow for small families as 1 4inch net pot should easily provide 1 meal. if only everyone likes the slimy taste. any recipes, anyone?
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_105900_zps8e88d6e9.jpg

If you can provide a trellis or string for support, the plant can grow tall, twine around and develop big leaves. it is prolific. It is more starchy when cooked and I prefer to juice it or eat it raw for higher nutrients (the taste can be covered by other ingredients). Although, it is not a very tasty vege, the slimy stuff is supposedly gd for the digestive system. For cooking, I prefer to slightly stir fry with fried garlic and 3 types of eggs (preserved, salted and normal).
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:26 PM

View PostCatNipLover, on 05 February 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

Previously, my chilli padi plant also keep dropping flowers. I was flipping tables, flipping my cats, flipping everything... so upset... Then sthh advised me to add a solution which is higher in P and it worked! I was using Daiso liquid fertiliser(green bottle) 6:6:6 which caused the flower to drop.. then I change to Daiso liquid fertiliser(blue bottle) 6:10:3 I think.

I molest the centre part of the flower every single day even after the petal dropped.


oh yah.. I nearly flipped my plant when I realised there's no pollen.. :P/>/> no pollen = no fruit.. :(/> I didn't know supposed to have pollen until I tried to pollinate another plant and tons of 'dust' flew out.. then I research and realised that was normal.. hahah..

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:30 PM

View PostGraceS, on 05 February 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

If you can provide a trellis or string for support, the plant can grow tall, twine around and develop big leaves. it is prolific. It is more starchy when cooked and I prefer to juice it or eat it raw for higher nutrients (the taste can be covered by other ingredients). Although, it is not a very tasty vege, the slimy stuff is supposedly gd for the digestive system. For cooking, I prefer to slightly stir fry with fried garlic and 3 types of eggs (preserved, salted and normal).


tough to provide a trellis.. it's sitting on my clothes dryer rack at the moment.. (lack of space with light) and so I play musical chairs with them whenever I wash clothes.. :(/> I try to twill it around itself.. hahaha.. guess I need to harvest it more..

nutritional value for Malabar spinach seems to be high.. i'm thinking of steamboat.. :P/> u think can work? need more leaves thou.. now only enough for stir fry for 1 person..
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:38 PM

View Postelsiekoh, on 05 February 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

oh yah.. I nearly flipped my plant when I realised there's no pollen.. :P/>/>/>/> no pollen = no fruit.. :(/>/>/> I didn't know supposed to have pollen until I tried to pollinate another plant and tons of 'dust' flew out.. then I research and realised that was normal.. hahah..



Same! I tap the back of the flower, those dust/powder flew out. What are those dust? How do you identify the pollen of the chilli flower? Lazy to google... =_=

If my current batch of baby roma tomato still do not make it, I will flip it. really.
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:38 PM

View Postelsiekoh, on 05 February 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

hmm... but there are some random brown spots on the leaves as well.. did not do anything recently so I dunno if I need to be worried.. the petite pepper is really small.. i'm quite shocked it's starting to develop flower buds..
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_131341_zps8605318c.jpg

vilma tomatoes look the same as usual.. 4 fruits coz there are not new flowers.. I just pruned off all the suckers and i'm trying to root them. will update if this works.. the 4 fruits are growing slowly.. how long do they take to turn red? i'm wondering if they will turn red by CNY.. :P/>/>/>/>
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag22/elsie40/Mobile%20Uploads/CYMERA_20150205_131429_zps76b054c3.jpg


Oooo.. tomatoes look good. Look at the underside of your pepper leaves, better check for mites or small insect. My sweet petite pepper bore quite a few fruits when it was only 10 cm tall.
Your vilma tomato is a determinate tomatoe. Unlike cherry tomatoes, don't prune away any suckers, it will only limit your crop. Even with all the suckers, it will still be a dwarf plant. They will not take away energy from your current flowers and fruit.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:49 PM

View PostCatNipLover, on 05 February 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

Same! I tap the back of the flower, those dust/powder flew out. What are those dust? How do you identify the pollen of the chilli flower? Lazy to google... =_=

If my current batch of baby roma tomato still do not make it, I will flip it. really.
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/memes/flip-table-meme-smiley-emoticon.jpg


that dust/powder is good stuff!!! tt's ur pollen! if u got that, most likely ur plants will fruit. I've got around 8 - 9 flowers on my plant so far.. all NO pollen... haiz..

tomatoes seem more predictable to me then chilli so far.. I hope yours will make it! :)/>
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:49 PM

Are these vilma tomatoes?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/CatNipLover/WP_20150107_027_zps12e1180f.jpg

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Bought them from Fairprice Xtra... at the organic section...
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:52 PM

View Poststhh, on 05 February 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

Oooo.. tomatoes look good. Look at the underside of your pepper leaves, better check for mites or small insect. My sweet petite pepper bore quite a few fruits when it was only 10 cm tall.
Your vilma tomato is a determinate tomatoe. Unlike cherry tomatoes, don't prune away any suckers, it will only limit your crop. Even with all the suckers, it will still be a dwarf plant. They will not take away energy from your current flowers and fruit.


hahaha.. my tomatoes are my pride and joy so far.. I stare at it everyday.. so can't tell if it has grown or not..

I checked and wiped the leaves of the pepper plant with a tissue.. nothing visible.. dunno if i'm doing anything it doesn't like.. hmm.. mine is 5cm so far.. my chilli was around 15cm before it finally showed some buds..

aiyo! ur advice came too late.. already cut off a lot of suckers.. haiz.. oh well.. hope they root well.. how to induce the plant to flower? i'm using Oh Chin Huat fruiting solution on them now..
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:54 PM

If the little dots on your pepper don't spread to other leaves, then you are ok. Otherwise, you may have to research on the problem.

Aiyoh, if you keep cutting suckers away, you will end up with only 4 tomatoes. To have more flowers, get a low nitrogen, higher phosphorus and potassium nutrient.

Watching tomatoes fruits grow and turn red can be very slow. It could take 1-2 months for tomato to reach their size, and another 1-2 months to turn red, unless you intend to leave a ripe banana next to it.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:54 PM

View PostCatNipLover, on 05 February 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:

Are these vilma tomatoes?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/CatNipLover/WP_20150107_027_zps12e1180f.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/CatNipLover/WP_20150107_026_zps9cc0a2dc.jpg

Bought them from Fairprice Xtra... at the organic section...


eh.. I dunno leh.. I got my seeds from seedsmaster.. hahaha.. got it coz it was supposed to be a dwarf plant and will not grow too tall.. :P/> I dun even know what they are supposed to taste like.. hahah..
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:56 PM

View Poststhh, on 05 February 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

If the little dots on your pepper don't spread to other leaves, then you are ok. Otherwise, you may have to research on the problem.

Aiyoh, if you keep cutting suckers away, you will end up with only 4 tomatoes.


hmmm... okok.. will monitor the pepper plant.. mayb change the solution later and see if that works...

huh!!! sure or not!! oh no... i'll never cut them away next time.. I tot I cut them away then my tomatoes will grow big and fat mah.. :(/>/> I dunno Oh Chin Huat solution is what NPK... hmmm...

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:58 PM

View Postelsiekoh, on 05 February 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:

that dust/powder is good stuff!!! tt's ur pollen! if u got that, most likely ur plants will fruit. I've got around 8 - 9 flowers on my plant so far.. all NO pollen... haiz..

tomatoes seem more predictable to me then chilli so far.. I hope yours will make it! :)/>/>


hmmm... Bu ke neng......After a few of my flowers dropped off, the rest start fruiting non stop. Have you switch to high P solution?

I am the opposite... :(/> The chilli padi and chilli plants are bearing 17 fruits but my tomato plants are either dying or stop growing at the height of 10 cm max.

One tomato plant nearly died but it survived after I cut off its rotting roots. I have no green fingers for tomatoes..

Thanks! I also hope your sweet petite plant will grow fruit! I cant wait to grow mine in the same set-up as yours too! I like the idea of the socks! My friend was telling me the black plastic bag is ugly. kns... really meh...
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