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Posted 22 June 2014 - 08:35 AM

Please help ID this herb. Was told it is for detox and anti cancer
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 11:15 AM

Asystasia gangetica
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 04:50 PM

eh... you sure is for detox? got flower to show?
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 05:40 PM

There are many forms of Asystasia gangetica (flower colours are different) and they are aggressive weeds, so don't consume the wrong one. I have this plant in my garden and I never eat them.

From information I gather from Taiwan gardening forum, they eat the light purple flower variety (sold as leafy vegetables in markets there) which is called 赤道樱草. The home gardeners propagate new plants using stem cuttings taken from the purchased vegetables. This way, they are assured they are growing the variety that's safe for consumption (if main purpose is to grow for eating) and not for ornamental purpose. Consume with caution since a lot of times, the so-called benefits are hearsay & exaggerated.
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 06:12 PM

My friend gave me some to plant. Was told by the people at hortpark that it can be juiced together with green apple . will wait for it to flower to confirm ID
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 07:50 PM

View Postpowder blue, on 22 June 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

My friend gave me some to plant. Was told by the people at hortpark that it can be juiced together with green apple . will wait for it to flower to confirm ID


The Emerco stop always took the booth No. 1 at hortpark bazaar have it to give away and given a name as 黑甜菜 as call in Taiwan, can cook and eat, don't need to juice, it become weeds in my garden, the bloom are pretty but more stem and leaf than its bloom, very messy,





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Posted 22 June 2014 - 08:01 PM

It's not 黑甜菜. The leaves of 黑甜菜 are not smooth edged like the leaves in post #1.

The wild vegetables called 黑甜菜 in Taiwan look like this:
http://formosahut.com/blog/?p=467
http://goods.ruten.c...?21203219713955


Photos of 赤道樱草 for your reference
http://hsoldbody.pix...%AB%BB%E8%8D%89

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:49 PM

I think need to see its flower.

This post has been edited by AhSeng: 22 June 2014 - 09:52 PM

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 11:43 AM

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不排除他们一开始就把植物名称弄错,所以多年来一直把不是黑甜菜的植物当成是黑甜菜来分享。两种植物样貌完全不一样。黑甜菜学名Solanum nigrum。
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:07 PM

View PostWisteria, on 23 June 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

Abby
不排除他们一开始就把植物名称弄错,所以多年来一直把不是黑甜菜的植物当成是黑甜菜来分享。两种植物样貌完全不一样。黑甜菜学名Solanum nigrum。



Possible they name it wrongly, I refer to your link and it is totally difference plant, they even distribute the booklet and name it as 黑甜菜, I cook it b4, totally not "sweet" and it is green but not by its name 黑, when call a simple ID like this, it either must have its color or taste means it right!

I confirm the one I planted is the purple bloom one, I do have the lime co;or bloom one with me too and more than that, leaf are all similar.




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Posted 24 June 2014 - 10:57 AM

View PostAbby Lim, on 23 June 2014 - 07:07 PM, said:

I confirm the one I planted is the purple bloom one, I do have the lime co;or bloom one with me too and more than that, leaf are all similar.


The leaves are similar, only the flower colour is different. The one that appeared on its own in my garden previously was the light yellow flower variety. Cleared the whole flower bed of them when we decided to grow something else. This plant appeared again in the garden early this year. Very messy since it grows vigorously. The current batch hasn't flowered, so don't know colour of flower.

It's alarming that whoever prepared that booklet never checked the plant structure properly against photos of the actual 黑甜菜 (botanical name: Solanum nigrum) before giving the local weed the name of another plant reported to be able to 抗癌. Recipients of the cuttings end up growing something else that doesn't have the same medicinal properties. Luckily it's the purple flower variety which is still safe for consumption.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:09 PM

Thanks for all the infor. Will just have to wait for it to flower, hopefully it will be the purple one.
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