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#1 User is offline   Wisteria 

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:56 PM

Dear sundew experts, have I guessed the names correctly? Thanks in advance!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/amazon-blue/sundew4.jpg
Left: D. tokaiensis?
Right: D. intermedia?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 08:54 PM

The right one looks like intermedia, the left one looks like a long burmanii. These are just my guess so lets see other members guess. Btw where did u get those?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 09:30 PM

I grew them from seeds labelled as "D. spatulata". After looking at the photos here, I'm wondering if the one on the left is D. tokaiensis. I have 20+ of them that look like D. spatulata or D. tokaiensis. Another 2 look totally different from the rest with erect leaf stalks (the one on the right).
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 08:23 AM

Here are my burmanii and intermedia respectively.
http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/yuzhangsiaw/a19a072b.jpg
http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/yuzhangsiaw/9e5b30b1.jpg
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 08:51 AM

nep, thanks for the photos. I have seen D. burmannii before, so I can conclude the one on the left isn't D. burmannii. The one on the right looks like your D. intermedia.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 09:59 AM

Left: D. tokaiensis (most spatulata in circulation locally is actually tokaiensis unless the source is very sure the seeds were gotten as the pure species; it's been like that for at least the past 15-20 years)
Right: D. intermedia

IMHO :flowers:/>
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:08 AM

The one on the right is D. intermedia. The one on the left looks a bit more like D. spatulata than D. tokaiensis but I could be wrong.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:11 AM

Thank you.

I put my 2 trays of sundews outside so they receive full day direct sun. The D. tokaiensis don't seem to turn red like those online images I see though.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/amazon-blue/sundew3.jpg
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:19 AM

Nice!!
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:30 PM

Wisteria, is your largest D.tokaiensis from the same batch of seeds as the rest of the ones in the transparent tray?

I found the following in one of my very old thread in TF where a guru helped me id my plant. :flowers:/>

"You can name the hybrid Drosera spatulata x D. rotundifolia either as D. tokaiensis or D. spatulata "Kansai Form".

The main visable difference is in the petiole. *The Kansai form has narrow (less than 2 mm) petioles which are straight sided for their whole length, and with few stalked glands present along their length. *The petioles terminate in an almost round lamina, giving the plant a spoon shaped look (if you are using Western style spoons, that is ;-) *It also looks like a spoked wheel from above.

The Kanto form has petioles that gradually widen towards the lamina (the trap), giving a wedge shaped look with stalked glands present along much of the length. The rosettes appear more dense.

Less visable differences relate to the styles: the Kanto form has less divided styles at the tips (although this is variable in different forms), the Kansai form is more divided at the tips."
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 01:31 PM

The seeds Wisteria had was given by me.

When I bought the seeds, its label as D. spatulata but I forgot which form is it. I bought too many form and didnt label some lol.

The color of the flower is pink and only the glands get very red but not much on the body. It does sound like the D. spatulata "Kansai Form" from what Cindy had described.

I have another form which bear white flower, more rosettes and whole body can be red in full sun.

I'll post some pictures for comparsion.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 02:49 PM

The parent of the seeds looks like this.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5997152858_079fe0c966.jpg

I've germinate some from the same batch or later batch.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6140/5964093791_03b25d21fc.jpg

This is a different form. Very red and leaves are totally different.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5997153970_e0475c5eda.jpg
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 03:04 PM

好漂亮!Kevin, yours are so colourful.

Cindy, the largest D.tokaiensis is from the same batch of seeds as the rest in the tray.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 03:14 PM

WoW! Nice! Poison again :hitmyself:/>

Possible to buy one from anyone of you(Wisteria or Kevin).

Thanks
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 04:31 PM

View Postsuccessnowhere, on 01 August 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

WoW! Nice! Poison again :hitmyself:/>

Possible to buy one from anyone of you(Wisteria or Kevin).

Thanks

Same
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 05:12 PM

The sundews ranging from 2cm-4cm diameter in the above photos are the biggest ones of the whole lot. I would like to keep them for myself as this is the first time I'm growing sundews from seeds (a big thank you to kevin for the seeds). The ones in the 2nd tray are 1cm diameter now. If you guys can wait for them to grow bigger till around 3cm diameter, I can pot them up individually for exchange. Looking for lowland nep cuttings & sarracenia seedlings/offshoots.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 05:40 PM

View PostWisteria, on 01 August 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

The sundews ranging from 2cm-4cm diameter in the above photos are the biggest ones of the whole lot. I would like to keep them for myself as this is the first time I'm growing sundews from seeds (a big thank you to kevin for the seeds). The ones in the 2nd tray are 1cm diameter now. If you guys can wait for them to grow bigger till around 3cm diameter, I can pot them up individually for exchange. Looking for lowland nep cuttings & sarracenia seedlings/offshoots.

Lol ok.I shall do some propagation now lol.
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 06:28 PM

kevin,
You have both the spatulata species (red plant) and hybrid (tokaiensis).

These are very easy to propagate via leaf cuttings, placed in tap water. Especially if you want to keep your red form. :flowers:/>
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 10:00 AM

The 4cm diameter D. tokaiensis:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/amazon-blue/sundew5.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/amazon-blue/sundew6.jpg
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 10:13 AM

View PostWisteria, on 03 August 2011 - 10:00 AM, said:

The 4cm diameter D. tokaiensis:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/amazon-blue/sundew5.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/amazon-blue/sundew6.jpg

Nice!! But it's dewless.
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