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#1 User is offline   Il Pirata 

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 09:28 AM

Hi - I came across this lovely cymbidium hybrid of cym. ensifolium, The website claimed thus :

"Cymbidium Golden Vanguard is a great HTC (heat tolerant cym.) from the combination of C. Golden Elf and C. Vanguard. With its natural floral spread of 9.5 cm, this HTC is possibly the largest bloom of all HTC. C. Golden Vanguard does not need any chill to initiate spike and bloom; therefore this hybrid is capable of blooming almost anywhere, even in equatorial areas."

C. Golden Elf is a 1st generation hybrid of C. ensifolium with a cool growing cym. hybrid while C. Vanguard is a cool growing cym. hybrid.

Is anyone already growing this here? Can share your experience?

http://www.pakkretfloriculture.co.th/images/stories/HTC/golden-vanguard-top-01_copy.jpg

http://www.pakkretfl...Emperor-4n.html
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 10:07 AM

]Hi Il Pirata,

Yes i am growing this and just went to take some pix for you. I don't have the 'emperor' version. just the ordinary Cym Golden Vanguard. this is my 'test' cym before trying out others!! :lol:/>
I got my plant (in bud) on 01 Dec 2009 from Song
Here is what the bloom looks like: cym. golden vanguard

I thought i'd end up with just another green plant after the bloom died. But 1-2 months ago i had a hunch and repotted it. The roots were PACKED. actually, i repotted it twice :hitmyself:/> because the first pot (black one frm daiso) was too small. If i split the plant it would be ok. Luckily it survived and even went on to throw out new shoots and 2 flower spikes!!!!! :drunk:/>

But one of the flower spikes died because my dog knocked over the pot twice and each time, i found out only at night when i got home. :bangin:/>

Here is a pic of the flower spike (wanted to wait till it bloomed before posting - but since you asked...)cym golden vanguard in bud

Here is a pic of the dead flower spike (grrr)dead spike :(/>

Growing conditions: bright shade originally grown with my phals/cycnodes. i've moved it out to the garden to get more sun/air after repotting, but it is still hidden behind all the other plants in a shady spot. - doesn't have to be particularly humid - Uncle phua said to water once every 2 days or so (musn't be too wet), and fert regularly. In fact, im worried its too wet with all the rain.
it is currently potted in cocohusk- but i'm reading up online and they say that its the wrong media?????

I realise that the trick is to repot it when you notice the plant is "not doing anything"
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 10:09 AM

View Postdinosaurr, on 03 July 2010 - 10:07 AM, said:

]Hi Il Pirata,

Yes i am growing this and just went to take some pix for you. I don't have the 'emperor' version. just the ordinary Cym Golden Vanguard. this is my 'test' cym before trying out others!! :lol:/>
I got my plant (in bud) on 01 Dec 2009 from Song
Here is what the bloom looks like: cym golden vanguard

I thought i'd end up with just another green plant after the bloom died. But 1-2 months ago i had a hunch and repotted it. The roots were PACKED. actually, i repotted it twice :hitmyself:/> because the first pot (black one frm daiso) was too small. If i split the plant it would be ok. Luckily it survived and even went on to throw out new shoots and 2 flower spikes!!!!! :drunk:/>

But one of the flower spikes died because my dog knocked over the pot twice and each time, i found out only at night when i got home. :bangin:/>

Here is a pic of the flower spike (wanted to wait till it bloomed before posting - but since you asked...)cym golden vanguard in bud

Here is a pic of the dead flower spike (grrr)dead spike :(/>

Growing conditions: bright shade originally grown with my phals/cycnodes. i've moved it out to the garden to get more sun/air after repotting, but it is still hidden behind all the other plants in a shady spot. - doesn't have to be particularly humid - Uncle phua said to water once every 2 days or so (musn't be too wet), and fert regularly. In fact, im worried its too wet with all the rain.
it is currently potted in cocohusk- but i'm reading up online and they say that its the wrong media?????

I realise that the trick is to repot it when you notice the plant is "not doing anything"

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 10:15 AM

Hi dinosaurr - this is wonderful! And what beautiful blooms you got here!
I'll check out Song again and see if they still have any left!
Hopefully I can repeat your success, but I'm new to cymbidiums...Thanks!!! :lol:/>
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 12:40 PM

plant looks familiar... somewhere in jalan kayu?
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 05:29 PM

View Postislaverde, on 03 July 2010 - 12:40 PM, said:

plant looks familiar... somewhere in jalan kayu?

bo la. that her house.
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 08:59 PM

View PostIl Pirata, on 03 July 2010 - 10:15 AM, said:

Hi dinosaurr - this is wonderful! And what beautiful blooms you got here!
I'll check out Song again and see if they still have any left!
Hopefully I can repeat your success, but I'm new to cymbidiums...Thanks!!! :lol:/>



Hi Il Pirata, Can you help me get one too if you are going, cause me no car. I fell in love with Cymbidium ever since I got a pot for CNY many years ago. Unfortunately then I did not know the one I bought need chilling to flower so I ended up with only leaves and more leaves.
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 09:43 PM

View PostKingfisher, on 03 July 2010 - 08:59 PM, said:

Hi Il Pirata, Can you help me get one too if you are going, cause me no car. I fell in love with Cymbidium ever since I got a pot for CNY many years ago. Unfortunately then I did not know the one I bought need chilling to flower so I ended up with only leaves and more leaves.


Hi Kingfisher. I'll probably be going again in 2 or 3 week's time. I was there last weekend, but did not see any in bloom. Only saw some very expensive ensifolium flowering.Perhaps there are some which are not in flower, not very hopeful...
But if have, I'll help you get one. I'll also lookout for it at the SGF.
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 10:38 PM

View PostIl Pirata, on 03 July 2010 - 09:43 PM, said:

Hi Kingfisher. I'll probably be going again in 2 or 3 week's time. I was there last weekend, but did not see any in bloom. Only saw some very expensive ensifolium flowering.Perhaps there are some which are not in flower, not very hopeful...
But if have, I'll help you get one. I'll also lookout for it at the SGF.



Thanks so much.
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 11:29 PM

Ah! I realised that the website which I went to check for the Golden Vanguard belongs to our gcs member, insigne, in Bangkok.... but the site didn't indicate that they'll ship overseas...else maybe we can do a mass order if there's enough demand? hehe...
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 12:06 PM

View PostIl Pirata, on 03 July 2010 - 11:29 PM, said:

Ah! I realised that the website which I went to check for the Golden Vanguard belongs to our gcs member, insigne, in Bangkok.... but the site didn't indicate that they'll ship overseas...else maybe we can do a mass order if there's enough demand? hehe...


Yes, I can ship them to Singapore. But you have to check out your Singapore regulations about importing orchids. The larger quantity is better since the charge for CITES and Phyto are calculated per time, regardless of the shipment size.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 12:26 PM

View Postinsigne, on 04 July 2010 - 12:06 PM, said:

Yes, I can ship them to Singapore. But you have to check out your Singapore regulations about importing orchids. The larger quantity is better since the charge for CITES and Phyto are calculated per time, regardless of the shipment size.


Wah! I dunno how leh... Maybe we can go through our local gcs merchant amostkt, who's experienced in bringing in orchids? But must see how's response I suppose... :o/>
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:24 PM

View PostIl Pirata, on 04 July 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

Wah! I dunno how leh... Maybe we can go through our local gcs merchant amostkt, who's experienced in bringing in orchids? But must see how's response I suppose... :o/>


Il Pirata... now you got me interested :P/>

Insigne - are the cymbidiums you've posted here all heat tolerant?
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 08:22 AM

View Postdinosaurr, on 04 July 2010 - 10:24 PM, said:

Il Pirata... now you got me interested :P/>

Insigne - are the cymbidiums you've posted here all heat tolerant?



Hi dinosaurr / kingfisher -

I've sent a message to Amos to ask if he can help bring them in.

BTW, insigne's full list of heat tolerant cym. :
(Most, but not all would flower well here, so have to read individual entries).

http://www.pakkretfl...-Cymbidium-HTC/

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:22 AM

View PostIl Pirata, on 06 July 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

Hi dinosaurr / kingfisher -

I've sent a message to Amos to ask if he can help bring them in.

BTW, insigne's full list of heat tolerant cym. :
(Most, but not all would flower well here, so have to read individual entries).

http://www.pakkretfl...-Cymbidium-HTC/

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Thanks for the help.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 10:39 PM

Hi Il Pirata,
Yes thanks! i will look at the list :lol:/>
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Posted 07 July 2010 - 08:50 PM

Golden Vanguard is one cymbidium that I would like to possess. Next time you are in Bangkok, can check out insigne's stall at J Market.
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 12:32 PM

Hi Il Pirata

Mine Cym Golden Vanguard is now in bloom. it is scented.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4779206086_810c1b20f9.jpg
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:52 PM

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Hi Il Pirata

Mine Cym Golden Vanguard is now in bloom. it is scented.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4779206086_810c1b20f9.jpg


Hi dinosaur, yours is Golden Elf, not Golden Vanguard!
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 03:56 PM

View Postinsigne, on 10 July 2010 - 03:52 PM, said:

Hi dinosaur, yours is Golden Elf, not Golden Vanguard!


Its lovely and petite! Oh so its Golden Elf!
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