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Posted 09 October 2008 - 07:13 PM

View Postlegarleon, on Oct 9 2008, 01:24 PM, said:

Dr Looiht:

I planted the grapes seedling into 16" diameter x24" height pot this morning, little tender plants.

Twfoong

White Malaga will die if the roots are too wet. Water sparingly and keep it out of the heavy rain.
How much did you pay for the plants?

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 10:43 PM

View Postlooiht, on Oct 9 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

White Malaga will die if the roots are too wet. Water sparingly and keep it out of the heavy rain.
How much did you pay for the plants?



Dr LooiHT:

RM20 for seedling & RM15 for set of fertilizer

TW FOONG
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 01:01 AM

View Postlegarleon, on Oct 9 2008, 10:43 PM, said:

Dr LooiHT:

RM20 for seedling & RM15 for set of fertilizer

TW FOONG

Were the grape plants sent to you by courier or were they delivered by his staff? Someone from Singapore wants to buy some grape plants from Encik Shuhaimi. The plants will have to be packed in a special way to be sent by courier.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 01:53 AM

Encik Shuhaimi also has other varieties, like Thompson Seedless, IAC, etc.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 11:08 AM

View Postlooiht, on Oct 10 2008, 01:53 AM, said:

Encik Shuhaimi also has other varieties, like Thompson Seedless, IAC, etc.


T Dr LooiHT:

Shuhaimi's wife told me the Thompson Seedless is sour.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 09:41 PM

View Postlooiht, on Oct 10 2008, 01:53 AM, said:

Encik Shuhaimi also has other varieties, like Thompson Seedless, IAC, etc.


To Dr LOOIHT:

I would like to plant Black Rose and Black Opal, are these two sweet n seedless, how u rate these two?

Thabks,

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 10:50 PM

View Postlegarleon, on Oct 13 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

To Dr LOOIHT:

I would like to plant Black Rose and Black Opal, are these two sweet n seedless, how u rate these two?

Thabks,

TW FOONG

I have a grape vine that produces grapes that are nearly black when they are ripe. The grapes are sweet. I do not know what variety it belongs to. I heard that Black Rose and Black Opal are sweet although I cannot be certain.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 12:35 PM

Hi..

I'm Mohd Nor, new member from Rawang, Selangor. Just to share photos of Isabella & IAC grapes. Luckily they taste sweet. Isabella is in ground and IAC in pot.



IAC
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamanflora/p...=20&dir=asc


Isabella
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamanflora/p...=20&dir=asc


Isabella
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamanflora/p...=20&dir=asc


Isabella
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamanflora/p...=20&dir=asc
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:56 PM

apasal categori 'adult' plak..

i think i might re-start keeping grapes..
the one that i have is not doing anything much
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 08:45 AM

View PostMamat, on May 13 2009, 04:56 PM, said:

apasal categori 'adult' plak..

i think i might re-start keeping grapes..
the one that i have is not doing anything much


Hi Mamat,

The 'adult'category is just yahoo technical error. This group is all about gardening and DIY projects.

What kind of grapes do you have? Any photo
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 09:28 AM

Hi

I dun really know what variety.

I have bought a few.. Some marcotted cuttings from chatuchak market, bangkok.
Those grew for a while before they died.. I always fear transplanting. especially marcotted pieces.

The only 1 that I have left now.. and is not growing at all, is one that I bought from a pasar malam outside Angsana Mall, JB, during ramadhan, about 4 years ago. It is planted in the ground, in my JB house.

And now, I tot of buying a few more polybags of grape vines from a nursery in JB.
Wld u be able to advise how big should the pot be if i wanted it to be container grown. My idea is to install an arch over the car porch entrance and let this grapes or some other vines rambled on it.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 01:24 AM

View PostMamat, on May 14 2009, 09:28 AM, said:

Hi
I dun really know what variety.
I have bought a few.. Some marcotted cuttings from chatuchak market, bangkok.
Those grew for a while before they died.. I always fear transplanting. especially marcotted pieces.
The only 1 that I have left now.. and is not growing at all, is one that I bought from a pasar malam outside Angsana Mall, JB, during ramadhan, about 4 years ago. It is planted in the ground, in my JB house.
And now, I tot of buying a few more polybags of grape vines from a nursery in JB.
Wld u be able to advise how big should the pot be if i wanted it to be container grown. My idea is to install an arch over the car porch entrance and let this grapes or some other vines rambled on it.
Tks

The grapes from Thailand are not marcotted. They are bud grafted onto SolonisXOthello rootstock. This rootstock is not suitable for Malaysia. I have bought lots and they have all died.
I do not know how they did it. I have never been able to bud graft grapes, apples or pears. No trouble with local fruit trees.

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 07:35 PM

Oh Okay..
I ges that why they failed.. Maybe the gd plants were grafted to a lesser rootstock.. darn!!!
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Posted 16 May 2009 - 09:47 PM

View Postlooiht, on May 15 2009, 01:24 AM, said:

The grapes from Thailand are not marcotted. They are bud grafted onto SolonisXOthello rootstock. This rootstock is not suitable for Malaysia. I have bought lots and they have all died.
I do not know how they did it. I have never been able to bud graft grapes, apples or pears. No trouble with local fruit trees.


To Dr LOOHT :

Hello nice to see u back to grapes forum.

I visited your friend Shuhaimi at Lekir grapes yard. His IAC & white malaga started bearing fruits. I bought ALFONSO LAVELLE from him. My collection now includes 1 malaga, 1 black rose, 1 black opal and latest 1 alfonso lavelle, the isabella already bearing fruit but since not favoured by u and shuhaimi, i will remove later on.

White malaga is ready to be pruned. the rest just started growing.

I can send the contact to MAMAT if he is interested.

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 09:49 PM

View PostMamat, on May 16 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

Oh Okay..
I ges that why they failed.. Maybe the gd plants were grafted to a lesser rootstock.. darn!!!


TO MAMAT

U can get Shuhaimi contact from Dr LOOIHT.

They can couriered to u by next day.

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 10:51 PM

eh this is indeed wonderful.
how do we go about doing this?

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 12:55 AM

View PostMamat, on May 16 2009, 11:51 PM, said:

eh this is indeed wonderful.
how do we go about doing this?

tks

Mamat,
You can contact Encik Shuhaimi by emailing him at
shuhaimi64@yahoo.com

Tell him that Looi from Penang sent you. He will give you a list of the prices, etc.

SolonisxOthello rootstock will only grow under certain conditions. I noticed that in Thailand they are grown in former padi fields, areas with a very high water table. Perhaps this is the solution.

legarleon,
Have you tried growing Kiwi fruit from seed following the instructions I gave in the block on growing Kiwi fruit from seeds. My Kiwi fruit plants are about 9 inches high now.
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:13 AM

View Postlooiht, on May 17 2009, 12:55 AM, said:

Mamat,
You can contact Encik Shuhaimi by emailing him at
shuhaimi64@yahoo.com

Tell him that Looi from Penang sent you. He will give you a list of the prices, etc.

SolonisxOthello rootstock will only grow under certain conditions. I noticed that in Thailand they are grown in former padi fields, areas with a very high water table. Perhaps this is the solution.

legarleon,
Have you tried growing Kiwi fruit from seed following the instructions I gave in the block on growing Kiwi fruit from seeds. My Kiwi fruit plants are about 9 inches high now.


Dr LooiHT:

I give up after your advice requiring lengthy process. I would rather get one from you, if you are having excess seedlings and wiling to share one.

many thanks.

TW FOONG
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:22 AM

View Postlooiht, on May 17 2009, 12:55 AM, said:

Mamat,
You can contact Encik Shuhaimi by emailing him at
shuhaimi64@yahoo.com

Tell him that Looi from Penang sent you. He will give you a list of the prices, etc.

SolonisxOthello rootstock will only grow under certain conditions. I noticed that in Thailand they are grown in former padi fields, areas with a very high water table. Perhaps this is the solution.


Dr LOOIHT:

The alfonso Lavelle is from Indonesia names as Bali from Shuhaimi, may be this species can grow better within this region.

The grapes is Blueish in colour.

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 11:52 AM

tks much mr Foong..
will drop him an email..
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